Pyramids with 4 stunt groups

[jandotcom]

I've got 4 solid stunt groups, and I'm trying to come up with ideas for pyramids.

I want them to look "connected", rather than like 4 individual stunts.  I'm having trouble getting past the idea that it should be symmetrical.  I can't come up with anything that looks symmetrical without an odd number of stunt groups.  Either I'm not being creative enough, or I just need to get over the symmetrical thing.

Any suggestions? 

Thanks in advance.

[coachamie]

You could do a table top. Just in case you don't know what it is, have a prep in the middle and put the backspot in the front of the prep so that the flyer can bend over, and grab hands, that way her back is flat. Then the two side stunt groups hitch onto her back, and put a stunt group behind the prep and she hitches on as well. The taller the prep in the middle is, the better it looks. So taller girls should be in that group, just so the hitched legs are bent more.

Then there are always the typical lib or stretch pyramids where there's a group on either side of a prep, and then the fourth group can do an extension or lib behind the stunt.

That's all I can think of if you keep the groups solid and don't break them up. Im not sure how many girls you have but I'm assuming 16. Depending on their age and ability level you can start breaking them up for pyramids and making it where you only have 2 bases underneath each stunt. If they're not old enough not to have a back, then the preps backspots could always be moved.

[Stunt Double 4U]

I've seen a lot of assymetrical pyramids this year, and they actually look really cool because you're not used to seeing them so when you do it's a big surprise and it's different.  If they can do tick tocks, you could have them do two halves with two hitches on either side and then tick tock to the opposite leg to switch direction OR you could start with two groups in hitch and then swicth it so they go down to half and the two original halves go up to hitch.

Otherwise, if you want symmetry, you could disassemble one of your stunt groups for your gyramid and make them into two shoulder sits for either end and then you'd have your traditional 3 lower level stunts and two extended stunts.

[CoachKC]

I saw a neat one on YouTube that used four groups:

Start w/ an extended stunt in the middle.
Connect your two stunts on the side (this one used extended hitches).
Place your fourth group in a prep level stunt IN FRONT OF the extended stunt.

It really added dimension and looked very cool without adding much difficulty -- and kept it symmetrical.

Just an idea!

[CoachErin]

You could always turn one stunt group into two by making them shoulder sits/stands. That would give you five. And then you could so a prep in the middle with two libs on either side and they hitch/arabesque/stretch, etc. out to the shoulder sit/stands.
You could have two preps side by side and have a heel stretch on each side of them. Or one prep on each side of a transitional pyramid with a basket toss behind.

[candcrew]

You could do a prep in the center with 2 swedish fall lifts to either side of the preps (so 12 people there OR 10 people if the swedish fall flyers put their hands on the prep bases shoulders) + put an extension behind the prep.  Depending on how you do this, it takes 14 or 16 people.

**If your kids don't have an extension you can do a double-based thigh stand (with or without a back spot depending on kids/numbers=3-4 people), put the 2 swedish falls with the inside bases just behind the thigh stand bases (8 people) + a prep behind the swedish falls (4 people);  Total=15-16 people

If you have 2 lib groups, hitch 2 libs facing inward on a prep table top that is "supported" by a double based thigh stand table top that is "supported" by someone kneeling.

[fvcheergirl]

You could do scales on the out side that is two stunt groups the two scales grab the libs arms then a lib in the middle with a shoulder sit in front of the lib so the lib can hitch.

[candcrew]

You could do scales on the out side that is two stunt groups the two scales grab the libs arms then a lib in the middle with a shoulder sit in front of the lib so the lib can hitch.

Just make sure that it's okay for your group to have an (extended) lib brace what is essentially 2 other (extended) lib variations.  I know that Jandotcom is doing rec league and NFHS may not apply to her but for JH/HS NFHS schools only elevator extensions can brace other elevator extensions.  Libs/lib variations can't brace each other unless the bracing stunt is done at or below should height.

[jandotcom]

You could do scales on the out side that is two stunt groups the two scales grab the libs arms then a lib in the middle with a shoulder sit in front of the lib so the lib can hitch.

Just make sure that it's okay for your group to have an (extended) lib brace what is essentially 2 other (extended) lib variations.  I know that Jandotcom is doing rec league and NFHS may not apply to her but for JH/HS NFHS schools only elevator extensions can brace other elevator extensions.  Libs/lib variations can't brace each other unless the bracing stunt is done at or below should height.

Thanks for the info, but this would be over our heads anyway, I think.

And, interestingly, our association has developed its own set of rules, which are severely lacking.  It says that at our level we can do one-legged extended stunts, but only a lib, arabesque or heel stretch.  We are not allowed to do a scorpian at all (and the wording suggests that we couldn't even do it on the floor!)  It doesn't address scales at all, neither as a "can" or a "can't".  It also doesn't address the concept of bracing - it doesn't allow for more difficult stunts if they are braced. 

This is just one example of how our rules are lacking.  Fortunately, though, I got myself invited to a rules meeting, which will include our local AACCA certifier, so hopefully there will be some improvement!

Thanks, everyone, for the ideas!