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Question: Should cheerleaders be exempt from school dress codes on game days?
Yes! After all, we're all about school spirit!
If other athletes are exempt we should be also.
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« on: 10/02/07, 11:06 am »

Here's the article:
http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18869107&BRD=2185&PAG=461&dept_id=416046&rfi=6

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It looks like a battle between school dress codes and school spirit. But school officials say they're just trying to be fair.
 
Schools across the region have differing policies when it comes to allowing athletes to wear jerseys or other team apparel to school on game days.

The controversy was brought to light recently, when two Old Forge cheerleaders were benched from a game, the result of several events that started with a disagreement about wearing their cheerleading uniform skirts in school.

The cheerleaders said they were told they were not allowed to wear their skirts because they were not a solid color, and were told to wear them inside out, said Suzanne Mitchell, mother of co-captain senior Carla Mitchell.

Old Forge Superintendent Roseann Brutico said the cheerleaders had suggested wearing the skirts inside out, but the issue was more about the length of the skirt and not its colors. Under the school's dress code, skirts must be knee-length and all bottoms must be a solid color.

Members of the team spoke out against the policy at a School Board meeting this month. When an article about the team's complaints appeared in The Times-Tribune, the captains made copies of it and posted them around the school. Ms. Mitchell said her daughter was not allowed to cheer in the Sept. 21 football game because she posted the article. The posting of the article was against district policy because it was not preapproved.

"It didn't need to be made an issue. This whole thing has left her very discouraged, as far as having a voice," Ms. Mitchell said. "It's being ridiculous."

Each Friday, students at Old Forge have the opportunity to wear "spirit shirts," which include all Old Forge apparel related to school activities.

The cheerleaders could wear their tops then, but not the skirt. They can only wear their full uniform to school on pep rally days, Ms. Brutico said.

"I do think the parents and the cheerleaders themselves have blown this out of proportion," she said.

If a cheerleader can wear the uniform skirt on a non-pep rally day, then issues of fairness would be raised if a noncheerleader also wanted to wear a skirt above the knees, Ms. Brutico said.

"We're trying to work with the students," Ms. Brutico said. "We're trying to administer the policy fairly."

The School Board's policy committee will hear public comments about the recently revised dress code at a public meeting, 6:30 p.m. Oct. 3 in the high school's large group instruction room.

Differing policies

In the Scranton School District, high school athletes are allowed to wear their jerseys, and cheerleaders can wear their uniforms, with sweatpants underneath their skirts on game days.

The administrations get requests from teams to wear their uniforms, and the district, in the interest of school spirit, usually grants the requests.

"Obviously we can't let the swim team wear Speedos," Assistant Superintendent William King said. "We let common sense prevail. When there's a request, we handle it case by case."

At Abington Heights High School, wearing athletic apparel became difficult last year, in the district's first year with a dress policy, Principal Pamela Murray said.

If athletes got to wear jerseys or other team apparel on game days, students in extracurricular clubs, like student council, also wanted to wear their matching shirts.

With so many clubs at the school, the administration came up with a simple plan: everyone has to follow the dress code every day. That means even on football game days, players and cheerleaders are not allowed to wear their uniforms.

At the end of each sports season, the school has a celebration at which students are allowed to wear their team uniforms or T-shirts from the extracurricular activities.

"It became hard to be fair to all groups," Ms. Murray said. "It's an easier way for us to include all students."

Contact the writer: shofius@timesshamrock.com
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« Reply #1 on: 10/05/07, 08:06 am »

I'm all for school spirit... but I would NEVER let my grils wear their uniforms to school.

1. The skirts would violate dress code. They would be too short. Not too short for cheering, but too short for the rules. At our school skirts need to be mid thigh while sitting. My taller girls would never get away with it. It doesn't matter if I agree or disagree with the dress code. Rules are rules, and I teach my girls to respect them whether or not they agree with them.

2. Wearing a full out uniform would be a distraction. The uniforms are so completely different from the norm, they will be asking for attention and I'm not sure I would like the attention they would be getting. Students can be extremely spirited and uniform wearing athletic t-shirts. (if allowed)

3. There are different dress codes for different schools. They have these rules in place for a reason. Is it really that big of a deal that they had to go to the newspaper or the school board?  Instead of causing trouble, they should constructively work with the school and administration.


If you would like to change something at your school, such as apparel on spirit days, go through the proper channels! Give valid reasons and ideas to administrators. I like how they will be having an end of the season "activity" where athletes can wear their uniforms. Even a once a month spirit day might work.
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« Reply #2 on: 10/05/07, 11:37 am »

Where was the coach/sponser when all this was happening, I agree with Coach Sadie, there are alternative means that could have been taken.  Cheerleaders at schools with a dress code should be lucky to get to wear normal uniforms at games!!  Causing trouble with the school board only makes things worse on the cheerleaders.  And the coach/sponser should have a tighter grip on her cheerleaders and their actions!!!!
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« Reply #3 on: 10/05/07, 02:05 pm »

My girls' skirts are considered too short according to the school's dress code.  The administration compromised with me. The principal told me that they could wear them to school ONLY with warm-up pants underneath. The only exception is if there is a school event on the day of the game in which the girls are actively cheering/performing (pep rally, school assembly). Then they're allowed to wear just the skirt FOR THE EVENT,  but must bring warm-up pants to put under it afterwards.
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« Reply #4 on: 10/06/07, 09:49 am »

When I first started coaching at our high school, six years ago, (has it been that long?) the girls could wear uniforms on pep rally day, but since we have started competing, we do not wear uniforms at school at all.  Let's face it, if we want to keep our uniforms looking sharp and brand new for games and the competition floor, it's not going to happen if we wear them all day to school, through lunch and taking notes in class and everything else.  (And to be honest, those skirts are pretty short!)

I believe in unity and matching t-shirts are purchased at the start of the year.  We wear our warm-ups (at least the jacket) on game day during basketball season (when the weather cools off).  And we do wear uniforms at events such as pep rallies, just not to school all day.

Anyway, I'm not sure why it should be an issue.
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« Reply #5 on: 10/09/07, 04:11 am »

Our school doesn't have much of a dress code, basically as long as you are not in underwear, a bathing suit, or gang related apparel you are fine. So we wear our uniforms every game day during football season and then we alternate with other things during basketball. The girls on my team like to wear their uniforms so they "don't have to think about what to wear to school that day"  Roll Eyes 
I have never been through this type of experience but I am all for school spirit and wearing the uniforms so long as it's allowed.
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« Reply #6 on: 10/09/07, 04:44 pm »

We have to wear our uniform every time we have a game or competition, but we usually end up wearing sweats under our skirts anyways, because it is so cold.  If we don't wear our our uniform, we get in trouble. 
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« Reply #7 on: 10/09/07, 05:42 pm »

Our school doesn't have much of a dress code, basically as long as you are not in underwear, a bathing suit, or gang related apparel you are fine. So we wear our uniforms every game day during football season and then we alternate with other things during basketball. The girls on my team like to wear their uniforms so they "don't have to think about what to wear to school that day"  Roll Eyes 
I have never been through this type of experience but I am all for school spirit and wearing the uniforms so long as it's allowed.


Very much agreed.

But I don't like the skirts that are obscenely short anyway (you know the ones, the ones that bearly cover the booty, or slit so high that bloomers show).  But If there were warmup pants underneath that would be a good solution.
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« Reply #8 on: 10/09/07, 06:12 pm »

At my school, we are suposed to wear our uniforms! We don't wear warm-ups with them, either. We're told to be "game ready" meaning: hair up with a bow, full uniform, cheer shoes on... I can understand why some schools wouldn't be allowed to wear uniforms, though. But my school is pretty lax on dress code, so we're okay.
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« Reply #9 on: 10/09/07, 07:14 pm »

I am going to add my two cents as a mom of a MS cheerleader an a freshman JV cheerleader.  I agree that they should wear spirit wear, and even full uniforms if the uniform in question meets guide lines..ei the skirts are long enough to meet dress code.  That being said, no way would either of my girls go to school in their all star uniforms if you know what I mean Shocked, as well as my freshman, the competition school shell is shorter than the sideline shell, not by much, just enough. Wink
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« Reply #10 on: 10/11/07, 10:33 pm »

Nylon warm-ups (pant and jacket) are the way to go!  Not only do they usually meet institutional dress guidelines, but they're sporty and great for cheering in chilly weather. 
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« Reply #11 on: 10/16/07, 02:13 pm »

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« Reply #12 on: 10/18/07, 01:51 pm »

We do have a dress code at our school, so uniforms are clearly not allowed.  However, if they were, the skirts are obviously not appropriate attire for school and should be reserved only for games/competitions. 
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« Reply #13 on: 10/19/07, 03:57 pm »

Hey all!

First, welcome back to the boards! I've missed everyone!!

Second, I believe it comes down to the individual school, the community, and the culture of that school for there is no one answer that will assuage, satisfy, or make everyone happy.

Where one school may feel that by allowing the cheerleaders to wear their uniforms to school is violating dress code or creating a situation of showing some type of "leniency," another school may find it not only appropriate, but necessary to cultivate pride in the colors, school spirit, and even certain recognition for all the athletes that work so hard to represent their school and community.

My high school cheerleaders ABSOLUTELY wear their entire uniform to school. It is a classy uniform and though it is "shorter" in the length of the skirt than what they "normally" allow for girls to wear, it is not obscene in anyway and based on the overall look of what they are wearing, it is often more appropriate than the jean and tight t-shirt combinations that many young ladies wear.

I think schools have put guidelines in place because of the "extremes" that people took their attire to but most are understanding of the gray lines that do exist and of the difference between an appropriate uniform that is recognizeable and that is seen by the entire community every Friday night vs. a short jean skirt worn only for the shock value and with no other purpose.

Just my thoughts!! Thanks for sharing everyone! Great discussion!
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« Reply #14 on: 10/23/07, 08:05 pm »

I agree with sunshine. When I cheered high school there was no choice we always wore our uniforms to school on game day, except basketball we would wear warm ups because it was so cold. The girls I coach also wear their uniforms to school and they like it. They have a fingertip length policy on dress code and the skirts are a little short but nothing that some girls don't get away with all the time. On fridays everyone that is involved in the game wears something to show their club/sport.
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« Reply #15 on: 11/19/07, 09:03 am »

We wear our shell tops with our warm ups.  The girls can't wear their skirts because of dress code, which is fine by me!  They are allowed to change into them for pep rallies and, of course, for games.

My girls actually PREFER this because those skirts are so short -- this way they don't have to worry about "flashing" anyone unintentionally or being subjected to inappropriate comments.

Incidentally, I also require them to purchase a solid black tanktop to wear UNDER their shell when it's too warm for their bodyliners. . .this prevents any exposed midriff when raising their hands, etc.

Maybe I'm a bit of a prude. . .but my parents appreciate it also!
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« Reply #16 on: 11/19/07, 01:44 pm »

All the spirit leaders at my high school wear uniforms on the day that they cheer a game. My team wore our game uniform (or comp uniform for big games) with black capri leggings or tights under our skirts.
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« Reply #17 on: 12/11/07, 02:12 pm »

for kids to get ketchup or chocolate or paint on their uniforms. So in the interest of keeping them looking nice for many years I choose not to let them wear them to school. (My kids are elementary aged so I feel this is a reasonable ruling.)
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« Reply #18 on: 01/30/08, 12:35 pm »

As a past participant, coach, and current mom--

Uniforms should fulfill most of the dress codes out there. Skirts should never be so short that they are showing booty. Mid-thigh is acceptable for all cheerleading.

Additionally, it is a great idea for all squads to have warm-ups.

If the team is to be spirit leaders in their school, then they need to show their team unity and school spirit by wearing their uniforms and/or warm-ups on game days.
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« Reply #19 on: 01/30/08, 01:21 pm »

Since our uniforms violate our dress code, the cheerleaders and dance team members all wear special shirts on game day (or the Friday before) that meet the dress code, but let everyone know who they are.  They also wear matching hair bows and belts.  The football and basketball players also wear button down shirts and ties on those days, instead of their jerseys.
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