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Author Topic: legality of stunt sequence  (Read 3937 times)
kap03
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« on: 11/03/07, 08:05 am »

a flyer is in cradle position braced by two elevators. can she pop back to another set of bases into a superman? or does she  have to use the original bases?
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« Reply #1 on: 11/03/07, 08:12 am »

By "superman," I'm guessing you mean a prone position on your stomach. 

It's legal as long as she never has her head go below her waist and as long as you have a spot on both elevators and have three bases (two and a back spot) on the girl who is going through the pyramid transition.

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« Reply #2 on: 01/15/08, 12:18 pm »

Okay.
I Go To JCMS I Am A Cheerleader.
And I Back Spot A Basket Toss. And
My Climber Does a Back Tuck In The Basket Toss Is That
Legal For Middle School  Undecided
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« Reply #3 on: 01/15/08, 12:21 pm »

Okay.
I Go To JCMS I Am A Cheerleader.
And I Back Spot A Basket Toss. And
My Climber Does a Back Tuck In The Basket Toss Is That
Legal For Middle School  Undecided

Not at all.  The only school age level this is legal is college.
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« Reply #4 on: 01/15/08, 12:32 pm »

So We CAN NOT Do That Stunt =[ Angry
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« Reply #5 on: 01/15/08, 12:44 pm »

So We CAN NOT Do That Stunt =[ Angry

That would be correct.  Please have your coach visit this website for a full list of school rules.

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« Reply #6 on: 01/15/08, 02:30 pm »

I know this is slightly off topic, but we attended a holiday tourney over break that gave awards to cheerleaders.  The team that got 2nd place did an ILLEGAL skill in their cheer.  They had a loss of contact "BALL" type stunt where the flier flipped over!!  Head over heels flipped over!  Anyway, I'm not sure the judges even knew the rules.  And the first two games of the tourney, we played the 9:30pm game.  The judges got up and left at half-time, so they never even saw our team perform a center cheer.  Erghhh!  Guess I just needed to vent.

But - NO inversions in high school unless your hands are ON THE FLOOR (walkeover, handstand, etc. into the stunt).
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« Reply #7 on: 01/15/08, 05:43 pm »

Do the rules apply just to games and competitions or at practices too?  Because I thought they applied to everything, but I work with a girl who graduated last year also and she said her coach let them practice illegal stunts.  One of the reasons being to get the girls exposed to more difficult skills so they'd be ready in college.   I went to a college stunt clinic to get exposed to the collegiate stunting style (at Morehead, they're awesome!!) Just wondering if this was actually legal?

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« Reply #8 on: 01/15/08, 07:21 pm »

As far as I am aware (and I am AACCA Certified) rules apply at practice as well as games.  I understand the desire to help kids get ready fro college stunts, but anytime you allow them to do illegal stunts, even at practice, puts both them and YOURSELF at risk.  You can be sued for allowing them to practice anything you know is illegal!!  You could also lose your coaching job and in extreme circumstances, if you are a teacher it could affect your teaching job as well.  BE CAREFUL!!
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« Reply #9 on: 01/15/08, 10:35 pm »

Do the rules apply just to games and competitions or at practices too?  Because I thought they applied to everything, but I work with a girl who graduated last year also and she said her coach let them practice illegal stunts.  One of the reasons being to get the girls exposed to more difficult skills so they'd be ready in college.   I went to a college stunt clinic to get exposed to the collegiate stunting style (at Morehead, they're awesome!!) Just wondering if this was actually legal?

CheeryCoach hit the nail right on the head...rules apply to competitions, games and practices...everything.  The coach who let her girls practice illegal stunts was putting herself and her squad at risk.  If she was AACCA certified and someone got injured and she was sued, the liability insurance that AACCA provides would be void since she was not following AACCA rules.  She would also have a difficult time winning her case in the courtroom since the prosecutor would merely have to prove that she was allowing the cheerleaders to do stunts that were considered illegal for their level.

The best way to get exposed to college level stunts is at a collegiate stunt clinic...especially one run by a program as experienced as Morehead.  Tony Nash definitely knows his stuff and would make sure you didn't try anything you weren't ready for and that there were experienced, qualified spotters around a stunt where people were learning new skills.

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« Reply #10 on: 01/16/08, 11:52 pm »

That's what I thought.  Thanks for clearing that up!!  And I agree, Tony Nash rocks!  He's my hero!!  Saw him Sunday and today!
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