Help! How long do you try a stunt till you change the group up?

[coachsilb]

Hi all,

I am a new coach and wanted to know how long does everyone give a stunt group to master a skill before you change a stunt group up?

I have an experience stunt group who is having a very difficult time hitting their lib this season?  I'm wondering how long do I give them?

They can get it 3/4 of the way up and then if just doesn't budge. 

Thanks!

[melpv1]

I would try just coaching their individual technique first.  Why isn't it getting all the way up?  Are the bases standing up too quickly and not using their legs or arching their backs?  Is the flyer not pushing off the bases' shoulders or not standing up and locking her knee quickly enough?  Is the back not giving the seat a strong enough push or not driving up the ankle?  Try to fix the problems of each individual because if you don't, each girl will take the same bad technique to any group she's in.  That said, sometimes some girls just click better with others, so it's not a bad idea to try switching things up occasionally, especially since all girls should get used to stunting with multiple groups in case injuries or illnesses force groups to change.

[jandotcom]

I would try just coaching their individual technique first.  Why isn't it getting all the way up?  Are the bases standing up too quickly and not using their legs or arching their backs?  Is the flyer not pushing off the bases' shoulders or not standing up and locking her knee quickly enough?  Is the back not giving the seat a strong enough push or not driving up the ankle?  Try to fix the problems of each individual because if you don't, each girl will take the same bad technique to any group she's in.  That said, sometimes some girls just click better with others, so it's not a bad idea to try switching things up occasionally, especially since all girls should get used to stunting with multiple groups in case injuries or illnesses force groups to change.

I also find it helpful sometimes to switch the flyer out just as a diagnostic tool.  Let the flyer try it with another base group, and the base group try it with another flyer.  Usually the other group can help narrow down what the issue is.  Then once that's done, the original group may be able to do it together.

[MisShelby]

I had the same problem with my girls at the beginning of our season! When I first formed my stunt groups, I placed the stronger flyer's with the weaker/newer base groups and placed my weaker flyer's with the stronger bases. I felt that this would balance things out, and for the most part it did. Except for libs! For about a month and a half they could hardly get the flyer to a half. I refused to switch the groups, just because my theory was working, for all of our other stunts Eventually, one day I got in as the backspot because, personally, I can't fix a stunt until I really feel what's going on in it, and it was def the backspot's positioning that was throwing things off. Backspot needs to have one hand under thigh/bottom of the standing leg, in order to give a good push off, and backspot needs to have the other hand on the ankle of the free leg to really drive it all the way up. My backspots don't let go of the ankle until the flyer is stable. When the flyer is stable the backspot shifts that free hand to the standing leg, to help pull up the weight. If you're bases are weak and just don't have the upper body strength to get the stunt fully extended, get them on a conditioning schedule everyday. I have my girls do push ups, sit ups, etc. to build up their strength. Good Luck!